PSST! WANNA DEGREE! TRY ONE OF THESE



EDUCATION IS FOR THE BIRDS!
(Solum pro Avibus Est Educatio)



Thailand took a hammering recently, deserved of course, for the being a centre for passport theft and passport forgery. But really if a terrorist wanted to say re-invent himself as a University Professor with many doctorates there is no better place to go to for these than the Indian sub continent – including of course Sri Lanka.

Thai schools, colleges and universities, need people with English language skills, so much that they turn a blind eye to some of the diplomas and degrees on offer from educational establishments in places the former British Empire….on which of course the sun has now set.


Now Thailand has serious educational problems. It is in desperate need of teachers but to teach here they really should have degrees….So these degrees surface on CV’s for foreigners applying for jobs here.

Of course I am not saying these people cannot teach – but sometimes one cannot help wonder at the at their CV’s.

Take for instance Dr. Edward Roy Krishnan, formerly a major contributor to the Bangkok Post’s education supplement and a Malaysian on Indian origin.

He has put his CV up on the net – (It can be found here) and at 14 pages this is a real humdinger. Dr. Krishnan I should point out is not a terrorist. Were he to be I am sure the Post would not have taken his copy.

Actually large parts of Roy Krishnan’s over the top CV – are actually true, although every meeting he attends he seems to put down as something of a ‘Research Project’.

And despite his peculiar qualifications he has carried everything off so well in the foreign education community in Bangkok that he has become something of a star in it. Although he is Malaysian he does not show any Malaysian academic achievements at all apart from British GCE ‘O’ Levels – taken at the ages of 15 and 16 but he does not state which one or ones he got.

Pupils in the UK passing ‘O levels’ will not be admitted to University with those qualifications. They will require ‘A’ levels or in Scotland ‘Higher Certificates’.

What this man lacks in boring pieces of paper from legitimate universities – he has more than made up for by self promotion and what nobler sentiment can he have than his Bangkok School Of Management statement ‘instead of churning out graduates with paper qualifications in their hands with little or nothing to show in terms of actual workplace skills…would instead ‘work diligently to ensure that its graduates are highly employable globally’.

1. First he says he is a Dr of Philosophy in Education from Vinayaka Missions University in Tamil Nadu.(To be completed). Well lets not contest that one.

Degree Mill



2. But then comes another Ph.D in Applied Psychology from, wait for it, the Open University for Complimentary Medicines given in December 2002. Yes you’ve guessed it – there’s no such place. It’s what is known as a ‘diploma mill’ and one of the most famous ones, possibly the biggest in the world. It has reportedly sold millions of degrees. It is not recognised by any authority in Sri Lanka where it is allegedly based.

From the US Council for Higher Education Accreditation

4. Then there is a M.Sc in Counseling and Psychotherapy from the ‘Institute for Psychotherapy and Management Sciences again in 2002. Again this is not recognised by CHEA or USDE above in the United States or UCG (University Grants Council) in India.

The University Grants Commission (UGC) states, in section 22 of the University Grants Commission Act of 1956:

“The right of conferring or granting degrees shall be exercised only by a University established or incorporated by or under a Central Act, a Provincial Act or a State Act or an institution deemed to be a University under section 3 or an institution specially empowered by an Act of Parliament to confer or grant degrees.”

IPMS’ address is  15/126 Unnat Nagar Part IV, Behind Jain Temple, M G Road, Gorguan West, Mumbai and on its own rather colourful but primitive website it states:

5. Then there is his Post Graduate Diploma in Counseling and Guidance, Central Institute of Management, Ambala. (18 October 2001) You can pick up post graduate diplomas here – three for US$150.00

They seem to sell diplomas all around the world and have their own Facebook page. They encourage their students.

“TO ACHEIVE (sic) BIG – DREAM BIG – THINK BIG – ACT BIG!

But of course as the bosses admit themselves their certificates may be useful…..

But they are obliged to state CIM India is not accredited and these can not be used for higher education.

ASK US FIVE QUESTIONS AND SEND US THE CASH

In other words our certifications maybe good your CV but useless elsewhere – From CIM India

6. Bachelor of Liberal Arts, Spicer Memorial College, Pune,. India – This college actually exists but is not accredited to issue degrees by the two official accrediting bodies in India or abroad.

India’s National Assessment and Accreditation Council had this to say about the Spicer Memorial College, Pune, the International Open University, IPMS Institute for Psychotherapy and Management Sciences, and the Open International University for Complementary Medicines.

A similar reply was received about the same institutions by NABET, The National Accreditation Board for Education and Training.

But I guess we will have to assume these places do not need to be accredited anywhere.

But wait. There’s nothing like distance learning. and E.R. Krishnan has taken even one step further. Now not only do you not need to go to the University which bestows the degree on you for a price, you do not even have to go to the Bangkok ‘school’ which which supervises its own courses at a price and represents the University which bestows a degree on you…especially if you want a degree in psychotherapy. Got it?

Funnily enough ‘Dr. Edward Roy Krishnan’s’ No 2 at the Bangkok School of Management has a educational career which has developed the same way as his boss.

His real name is Marthonot Jessen bin Felix V Kuasi and he hails from Malaysia too. He seems to have also registered at the 7th Day Adventist Spicer Memorial College in Pune, India, and studied at the Open International University in Colombo and at the Institute for Psychotherapy and Management Sciences in Mumbai.

Here’s part of his CV:

SNAP!

Dr, Roy has not responded to our messages to him or to the Bangkok School of Management. Nor has the University of Northumbria, whose degree courses are being promoted by BSM.

DIPLOMA MILLS

Question: When is a psychology degree not worth the paper it’s printed on?
Answer: When it comes from a diploma mill.

WORLD’S FUNNIEST DEGREE MILL

From QUACKWATCH

More than 130 institutions had achieved IAC accreditation by 1989, when one Eric Vieth established the Eastern Missouri Business College and immediately applied to the International Accrediting Commission. Vieth opened his headquarters in a one-room office in St. Louis, Missouri, and issued an eight-page typewritten catalog that listed faculty members such as Arnold Ziffel, Edward J. Haskell, M. Howard, Jerome Howard, and Lawrence Fine.


Arnold Ziffel was the pig on the TV show Green Acres, Eddie Haskell was the obsequious friend on Leave It to Beaver, and the Messrs. Howard, Howard, and Fine were collectively known as the Three Stooges.


It gets better. The college seal was emblazoned with the phrase Solum pro Avibus Est Educatio, which means “Education is only for the birds,” and the motto was Latrocina et Raptus, or, loosely translated, everything from petty theft to highway robbery. Doctorates were offered by mail in dozens of fields, from aerospace to marine biology. The marine biology textbook was identified as The Little Golden Book of Fishes.

8 thoughts on “PSST! WANNA DEGREE! TRY ONE OF THESE

  1. I took two classes under Edward Krishnan at Webster University.
    To all his credit he was a good teacher, Undoubtedly of a high IQ if such a thing can be judged. One of the classes was in educational psychology which is one of the few courses that I believe has been useful in my day to day life.

    As you can imagine I am a bit shocked as this definitely comes as a surprise.

    1. Yes. But they can never fake their knowledge, teaching/working experiences and the ability of inspiration to students/people. What we want is to know beside all the certifications after graduate, what we really achieve from our education investment? we dont need lecturers from Harvard, Oxford, Stanford, Yale,… to teach us theories. We want someone can GUIDE us to apply it to our future.

      Is it necessary to judge people where they graduate from when they can manage their business very well?!

      I dont know why people like wasting their time to write some articles like this?

  2. It is sad to see that diploma mills are so popular and that people feel the need to use them. However, do you need to degrade the school? My friend's nephew goes there and from what I hear its got great students and a good business program. Perhaps they just need to re-evaluate management. – Greg H.

  3. Reminds me of the " Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, Horse Specialist" of 2 years ago that botched a pony euthanasia in a most spectacularly horrendous and horrifying fashion.
    Yep,…didn't even graduate from vet school. When I tried on several occasions to report him to police for practicing without a license, I was informed, "it is a civil matter."

    When I confronted the clinic owners he worked for, I was surrounded by staff, threatened and told I needed to "learn how things are done in Thailand."

    LieLand

  4. No need to go to India- Andrew Drummond has reported in the past about how long it took me to force Chulalongkorn University to revoke the fraudulently-obtained PhD of the director of Thailand's national Innovation Agency. His supervisors and the university showed exceptional obduracy – they were quite prepared to turn a blind eye to gross plagiarism that should have been evident to any 12-year old. Mind you, you'd need a bit of influence to try this strategy….

  5. I had two classes with Krishnan while studying at Webster, He was a very likable guy, very knowledgeable. I am quite surprised and disappointed really. I feel like if he had decided the legitimate path to educational success he would undoubtedly go a long way. My message to Krishnan if he is reading this. Rid yourself of these phony degrees, enroll yourself into some legitimate programs. It is not to late to redeem yourself. But if you continue this fraudulent path, you will be exposed as a phoney and your future will be bleak.

  6. Almost as many shonky qualifications as some so called "martial arts" experts claim. Shame isn't a concept widely understood in Asia.

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